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	<title>Comments on: Fair Trade vs. Direct Trade, Pt. 2: Why Not Fair Trade?</title>
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		<title>By: Fair Trade vs. Direct Trade, Pt. 1&#8211;Which is Which? &#124; Coffee Tao</title>
		<link>http://wayofcoffee.com/index.php/2007/10/18/fair-trade-vs-direct-trade-pt-2-why-not-fair-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Fair Trade vs. Direct Trade, Pt. 1&#8211;Which is Which? &#124; Coffee Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Trade vs. direct trade, their political ramifications, and why I prefer direct trade.  Read Part 2 here, and Part 3 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne--

Democratic structure isn&#039;t the only requirement.  Said coop (or grower&#039;s association, which is essentially the same thing) must also, for example, employ only full-time laborers who reside on premises year-round.  Many, many farms--small family farms most of all--financially depend on itinerant labor during harvest months, so this requirement alone excludes many of the poorest and/or the best growers from the equation, even if the temporary labor is paid fairly and working conditions for all workers is optimal.

-a</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne&#8211;</p>
<p>Democratic structure isn&#8217;t the only requirement.  Said coop (or grower&#8217;s association, which is essentially the same thing) must also, for example, employ only full-time laborers who reside on premises year-round.  Many, many farms&#8211;small family farms most of all&#8211;financially depend on itinerant labor during harvest months, so this requirement alone excludes many of the poorest and/or the best growers from the equation, even if the temporary labor is paid fairly and working conditions for all workers is optimal.</p>
<p>-a</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair Trade only works with small farmers in coffee.  I believe this is the main reason why farmers need to be part of an organization in order to get Fair Trade certified (it becomes cheaper for a person to get certified if she/he is part of a group).  

Also, from what I understand, the farmers could be part of a growers association or even a company owned by the farmers and not neccesarily form a coop in order to get Fair Trade certified.  The only requirement is that the organization needs to be democratically run for their participants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair Trade only works with small farmers in coffee.  I believe this is the main reason why farmers need to be part of an organization in order to get Fair Trade certified (it becomes cheaper for a person to get certified if she/he is part of a group).  </p>
<p>Also, from what I understand, the farmers could be part of a growers association or even a company owned by the farmers and not neccesarily form a coop in order to get Fair Trade certified.  The only requirement is that the organization needs to be democratically run for their participants.</p>
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		<title>By: Aric</title>
		<link>http://wayofcoffee.com/index.php/2007/10/18/fair-trade-vs-direct-trade-pt-2-why-not-fair-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Aric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annette-

The stipulation encourages small independent farmers to band together either because a) they&#039;ve arbitrarily decided that co-ops are the only agro structure where exploitation doesn&#039;t exist, which is demonstrably untrue, or b) they know it&#039;s the only way independent farmers can afford certification costs.  In other words FT is trying to physically re-mold the coffee chain into something that can support FT.

I don&#039;t think they&#039;re specifically corrupt, I just think that they&#039;re trying to compete as a brand in the marketplace.  And that means using the same quasi-ethical tactics as big companies like Starbucks to build that brand and disparage viable alternatives.

-a</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annette-</p>
<p>The stipulation encourages small independent farmers to band together either because a) they&#8217;ve arbitrarily decided that co-ops are the only agro structure where exploitation doesn&#8217;t exist, which is demonstrably untrue, or b) they know it&#8217;s the only way independent farmers can afford certification costs.  In other words FT is trying to physically re-mold the coffee chain into something that can support FT.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re specifically corrupt, I just think that they&#8217;re trying to compete as a brand in the marketplace.  And that means using the same quasi-ethical tactics as big companies like Starbucks to build that brand and disparage viable alternatives.</p>
<p>-a</p>
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		<title>By: Annette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But Fair Trade certification requires any participating growers to be part of a farmer co-operative. Any other organizational structure is automatically disqualified from consideration by TransFair. &lt;/i&gt;

Is the reason for this stipulation good intention, to filter out some negative aspect? Or is it somehow just financially motivated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But Fair Trade certification requires any participating growers to be part of a farmer co-operative. Any other organizational structure is automatically disqualified from consideration by TransFair. </i></p>
<p>Is the reason for this stipulation good intention, to filter out some negative aspect? Or is it somehow just financially motivated?</p>
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